http://mschnlnine.vo.llnwd.net/d1/Dev/App_Themes/Channel8/images/feedimage.pnghttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/Max Builds a PC Series Part VI: The Graphics Cardhttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/en-usThu, 21 Feb 2008 08:09:15 GMTThu, 21 Feb 2008 08:09:15 GMTEvNet (EvNet, Version=1.0.3149.22554, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null)Nos, valljuk be nem sok pc van a hétköznapi forgalomba amelytől a Vista 5.9-es értékelést kap. Elég komoly<div>Trackback from <a href="http://msportal.hu/blogs/turczy_attila/archive/2008/02/20/kapt-225-l-m-225-r-a-vista-t-243-l-5-9-es-233-rt-233-kel-233-st.aspx">Turóczy Attila</a></div>http://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/Trackbacks/2475/Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:09:15 GMThttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/Trackbacks/2475/0http://channel8.msdn.com/2475/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0Nos, valljuk be nem sok pc van a hétköznapi forgalomba amelytől a Vista 5.9-es értékelést kap. Elég komolyTrackback from Turóczy AttilaSystem0http://channel8.msdn.com/2475/Trackback.aspxI'm an ATI die hard so I'll say go for the ATI HD 3870,besides it is also a good bang for buck card.nvidia 8800 GT is also a good choice but you'll have to spend more for relatively the same performance (ok ,maybe a bit higher.) of the ATI 3870.<br />http://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=1375Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:17:43 GMThttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=13750http://channel8.msdn.com/1375/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0I'm an ATI die hard so I'll say go for the ATI HD 3870,besides it is also a good bang for buck card.nvidia 8800 GT is also a good choice but you'll have to spend more for relatively the same performance (ok ,maybe a bit higher.) of the ATI 3870.gogole0http://channel8.msdn.com/1375/Trackback.aspxya i am basically quite on this one since everyone seems to be saying the same thing i am saying, in regards to ati. to retract some thing i said earlier , i think you could drop the crossfire right now since at i is gonna release a newer faster card in this quarter, and the winner could easily pick that up and cross fire it when it comeshttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=935Fri, 04 Jan 2008 00:15:47 GMThttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=9350http://channel8.msdn.com/935/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0ya i am basically quite on this one since everyone seems to be saying the same thing i am saying, in regards to ati. to retract some thing i said earlier , i think you could drop the crossfire right now since at i is gonna release a newer faster card in this quarter, and the winner could easily pick&#8230;platinumacetric0http://channel8.msdn.com/935/Trackback.aspxya i am pretty quite on this one cause i guess all of you basically saying the same thing i am saying.. i guess there is no need for crossfire right now, since ati is planning on drop a newer better card in this quarter, and the winner could easily crossfire those)http://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=934Fri, 04 Jan 2008 00:13:40 GMThttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=9340http://channel8.msdn.com/934/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0ya i am pretty quite on this one cause i guess all of you basically saying the same thing i am saying.. i guess there is no need for crossfire right now, since ati is planning on drop a newer better card in this quarter, and the winner could easily crossfire those)platinumacetric0http://channel8.msdn.com/934/Trackback.aspx<p>I picked&nbsp;the <a href="http://www.powercolor.com/eng/products_features.asp?ProductID=1647">PowerColor HD 3870 PCS</a>&nbsp;because it has a higher GPU clock&nbsp;speed than&nbsp;any of the&nbsp;other 3870's I've come across (800MHz versus 775MHz). It's not much of an improvement, but it's still an improvement.</p>http://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=927Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:25:09 GMThttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=9270http://channel8.msdn.com/927/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0I picked&nbsp;the PowerColor HD 3870 PCS&nbsp;because it has a higher GPU clock&nbsp;speed than&nbsp;any of the&nbsp;other 3870's I've come across (800MHz versus 775MHz). It's not much of an improvement, but it's still an improvement.Spinfusor0http://channel8.msdn.com/927/Trackback.aspx<p>I agree with Max right now, the 3870 is the way to go.&nbsp; Brand doesn't matter.</p>http://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=925Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:33:59 GMThttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=9250http://channel8.msdn.com/925/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0I agree with Max right now, the 3870 is the way to go.&nbsp; Brand doesn't matter.Trix0http://channel8.msdn.com/925/Trackback.aspxEVGA 8800 GT KO - It's factory overclocked, limited lifetime warranty, and it has some of the best performance per dollar on the market.http://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=924Thu, 03 Jan 2008 19:28:57 GMThttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=9240http://channel8.msdn.com/924/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0EVGA 8800 GT KO - It's factory overclocked, limited lifetime warranty, and it has some of the best performance per dollar on the market.AndreBoi0http://channel8.msdn.com/924/Trackback.aspx<p>Interestingly enough, before reading this and looking up all then info, I was gonna go with 8800GT for my own rig...</p> <p>After looking at the mobo and keeping future in mind, the 3870 is best bet in this set up.</p> <p>I might even be getting one myself, ATI has had reputation in Video for a while, and I am interested in watching Full-HD content in near future though my PC rather then PS3/XBOX.</p>http://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=922Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:20:29 GMThttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=9220http://channel8.msdn.com/922/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0Interestingly enough, before reading this and looking up all then info, I was gonna go with 8800GT for my own rig... After looking at the mobo and keeping future in mind, the 3870 is best bet in this set up. I might even be getting one myself, ATI has had reputation in Video for a while, and I am&#8230;campusK0der0http://channel8.msdn.com/922/Trackback.aspxI guess leaving Crossfire open as a future option is reason enough to go 3870. So ATI it is :)http://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=921Thu, 03 Jan 2008 13:34:20 GMThttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=9210http://channel8.msdn.com/921/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0I guess leaving Crossfire open as a future option is reason enough to go 3870. So ATI it is :)madd00http://channel8.msdn.com/921/Trackback.aspxwhy not give the winner a crossfire instead ;)<br />(new year surprise)<br />http://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=920Thu, 03 Jan 2008 11:20:34 GMThttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=9200http://channel8.msdn.com/920/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0why not give the winner a crossfire instead ;)(new year surprise)sriram0http://channel8.msdn.com/920/Trackback.aspx<p>I'm thinking we'll do the 3870 for 2 reasons:</p> <p>1) lots of votes, powerful, yet power efficient</p> <p>2) Should the winner choose to go CrossFire at a later date they could :)</p> <p>Any last objections?</p>http://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=918Thu, 03 Jan 2008 07:13:58 GMThttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=9180http://channel8.msdn.com/918/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0I'm thinking we'll do the 3870 for 2 reasons: 1) lots of votes, powerful, yet power efficient 2) Should the winner choose to go CrossFire at a later date they could :) Any last objections?Max0http://channel8.msdn.com/918/Trackback.aspx<p>I welcome you all a new year...and for me a new Quarter of classes ;) (OSU has quarters)</p> <p>I think I want to go with the <a href="http://www.powercolor.com/eng/products_features.asp?ProductID=1647">ATI 3870</a>&nbsp;though it really isn't as fast as an 8800GT. It is more power efficient however.</p> <p>I also think a single card is fine.</p>http://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=917Thu, 03 Jan 2008 04:41:36 GMThttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=9170http://channel8.msdn.com/917/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0I welcome you all a new year...and for me a new Quarter of classes ;) (OSU has quarters) I think I want to go with the ATI 3870&nbsp;though it really isn't as fast as an 8800GT. It is more power efficient however. I also think a single card is fine.Trix0http://channel8.msdn.com/917/Trackback.aspx<p>PST + 8h is GMT right? So I'm guessing London. But well, it could pretty much be anywhere from Iceland to&nbsp;Western Africa...</p> <p>I live in Paris, France, but I'll be living in GMT for a couple of weeks too. (London in case you're wondering...)</p>http://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=914Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:42:23 GMThttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=9140http://channel8.msdn.com/914/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0PST + 8h is GMT right? So I'm guessing London. But well, it could pretty much be anywhere from Iceland to&nbsp;Western Africa... I live in Paris, France, but I'll be living in GMT for a couple of weeks too. (London in case you're wondering...)madd00http://channel8.msdn.com/914/Trackback.aspx<p>Haha, I'm always there... don't you guys forget that!</p> <p>I currently live in Seattle and have an office here at Microsoft's HQ.&nbsp; So that would put us in the PST zone.&nbsp; Although soon I am taking a 2 week trip that will put me 8 hours ahead of that.... care to guess where?</p>http://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=912Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:01:16 GMThttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=9120http://channel8.msdn.com/912/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0Haha, I'm always there... don't you guys forget that! I currently live in Seattle and have an office here at Microsoft's HQ.&nbsp; So that would put us in the PST zone.&nbsp; Although soon I am taking a 2 week trip that will put me 8 hours ahead of that.... care to guess where?Max0http://channel8.msdn.com/912/Trackback.aspx<p>Happy New Year everyone!</p> <p>I'm partial to nVidia because I've had pretty good luck with them and I&nbsp;know a lot of people cursing ATI all the time, so my vote's on the 8800. A quick search gave me better reviews for the GTX than the GTS though. I'm still not a good reference when it comes to hardware, so I'll let you decide on that if nVidia is our final choice.</p> <p>As always, my suggestions are based on what I'd do with this computer if I could bring it home. Therefore, a single card is more then enough for me&nbsp;(unless I kick my sister out of the apartment that is).</p> <p>I'll leave the choice of brand to whoever is doing the shopping.</p> <p>Oh and PS: @Max, I still haven't figured out what time zone Channel 8's on, but seriously, working on January 1st?! ;)</p>http://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=910Wed, 02 Jan 2008 09:21:07 GMThttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=9100http://channel8.msdn.com/910/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0Happy New Year everyone! I'm partial to nVidia because I've had pretty good luck with them and I&nbsp;know a lot of people cursing ATI all the time, so my vote's on the 8800. A quick search gave me better reviews for the GTX than the GTS though. I'm still not a good reference when it comes to&#8230;madd00http://channel8.msdn.com/910/Trackback.aspxBut 2 cards are so much more fun!<br /><br />Let's go with two 3870s in a crossfire config or a single 8800 GTS (or Ultra, but probably not needed). I've had better experience with driver support and updates from Nvidia, but I'm hearing the 8800 support is fairly decent.<br /><br /><br />And Happy New Year everybody!<br />http://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=909Tue, 01 Jan 2008 22:10:15 GMThttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=9090http://channel8.msdn.com/909/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0But 2 cards are so much more fun!Let's go with two 3870s in a crossfire config or a single 8800 GTS (or Ultra, but probably not needed). I've had better experience with driver support and updates from Nvidia, but I'm hearing the 8800 support is fairly decent.And Happy New Year everybody!JKrebo0http://channel8.msdn.com/909/Trackback.aspxI'd go with a 8800GTS<br />In this review seems that the <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerbase.de%2Fartikel%2Fhardware%2Fgrafikkarten%2F2007%2Ftest_nvidia_geforce_8800_gts_512%2F7%2F%23abschnitt_anno_1701&amp;langpair=de%7Cen&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8">POV</a>&nbsp; has quite good performances. If we want a more overclockable version we should go with <a href="http://www.xfxforce.com/web/product/listConfigurations.jspa?series=GeForce%26trade%3B+8800&amp;seriesId=730995#openLarger">XFX</a>.<br />I think one graphic card is enough, I don't have the need of 2 (3) sli/crossfire cards.<br /><br />http://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=908Tue, 01 Jan 2008 21:55:56 GMThttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=9080http://channel8.msdn.com/908/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0I'd go with a 8800GTSIn this review seems that the POV&nbsp; has quite good performances. If we want a more overclockable version we should go with XFX.I think one graphic card is enough, I don't have the need of 2 (3) sli/crossfire cards.dau_sama0http://channel8.msdn.com/908/Trackback.aspx8800GT - have heard good things about it!<br />but also the BFG geForce 8800GTX OC 768MB PCIE... dual dvi and plenty of power, supports DX10 and is reasonably priced. It's also been on CustomPC's top-tech pages for a while.<br /><br /><br />Something with two ports.. for dual screen madness!<br /><br />Again I'm not informed on GPUs... back later more informed.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />http://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=907Tue, 01 Jan 2008 21:38:20 GMThttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=9070http://channel8.msdn.com/907/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=08800GT - have heard good things about it!but also the BFG geForce 8800GTX OC 768MB PCIE... dual dvi and plenty of power, supports DX10 and is reasonably priced. It's also been on CustomPC's top-tech pages for a while.Something with two ports.. for dual screen madness!Again I'm not informed on GPUs... back later more informed.Lloyd_Humph0http://channel8.msdn.com/907/Trackback.aspxIf we are going with the 8800 why not the Ultra instead of the GT/GTS.<br />I would vouch for 8800 Ultra only if Max decides to go non- Crossfire.<br />If Max doesn't mind 2 HD 3870's then i am all for it :)<br />http://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=906Tue, 01 Jan 2008 14:57:46 GMThttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=9060http://channel8.msdn.com/906/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0If we are going with the 8800 why not the Ultra instead of the GT/GTS.I would vouch for 8800 Ultra only if Max decides to go non- Crossfire.If Max doesn't mind 2 HD 3870's then i am all for it :)sriram0http://channel8.msdn.com/906/Trackback.aspx<p>We should really go with the 8800 GTS 512 MB. It is nVidia, I know, and their driver support really sucks but the 8800 support seems to be decent. Also they have the real horse power as of today and I can only dream of all these shader processors... OMG! What a wonderful dream!</p> <p>So let's get this one and have all fun with it :-D</p>http://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=905Tue, 01 Jan 2008 14:11:49 GMThttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=9050http://channel8.msdn.com/905/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0We should really go with the 8800 GTS 512 MB. It is nVidia, I know, and their driver support really sucks but the 8800 support seems to be decent. Also they have the real horse power as of today and I can only dream of all these shader processors... OMG! What a wonderful dream! So let's get this one and have all fun with it :-Dlittleguru0http://channel8.msdn.com/905/Trackback.aspxI would recommend NVidea card. <br />http://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=904Tue, 01 Jan 2008 13:57:42 GMThttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=9040http://channel8.msdn.com/904/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0I would recommend NVidea card. akafazov0http://channel8.msdn.com/904/Trackback.aspxATI HD 3870 in Crossfire mode :)<br /><br /><a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071230-measuring-cpu-usage-during-hd-playback-ati-vs-nvidia.html">Here is an article on CPU usage while decoding HD Videos(ars technica)</a><br />http://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=903Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:14:08 GMThttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=9030http://channel8.msdn.com/903/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0ATI HD 3870 in Crossfire mode :)Here is an article on CPU usage while decoding HD Videos(ars technica)sriram0http://channel8.msdn.com/903/Trackback.aspx<p>the&nbsp; ATI FireGL™ V8650 is mainly an openGL optimized video card that is meant for Animation and high-end rendering, note you can and it will run direct x 10 applications really well but it's still meant for high end graphics work not gaming. Also it is pratically impossible to get the FireGL at a reasonable price unless it's part of a workstation</p> <p>&nbsp;the only huge plus with the ati HD3870&nbsp;is that we can go cross fire with nvidia we basically stuck with single solutions.</p> <p>Also it just hit midnight here. So let me first to say this.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>HAPPY NEW YEAR FOLKS. HOPE YOU ALL GET YOUR WISHES THIS YEAR. </p> <p>PS. if you get a msg form me from xbox live disregard it.. hehehe apart form you max. you have to reply.. hahah</p>http://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=902Tue, 01 Jan 2008 05:08:54 GMThttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=9020http://channel8.msdn.com/902/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0the&nbsp; ATI FireGL™ V8650 is mainly an openGL optimized video card that is meant for Animation and high-end rendering, note you can and it will run direct x 10 applications really well but it's still meant for high end graphics work not gaming. Also it is pratically impossible to get the FireGL at&#8230;platinumacetric0http://channel8.msdn.com/902/Trackback.aspx<p>I like the HD 3870 line personally, so I'm glad to see you guys are into that possibility... I also agree with Platinum that brand doesn't matter all that much in this case but I'll stick to something we all like.</p>http://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=901Tue, 01 Jan 2008 03:47:29 GMThttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=9010http://channel8.msdn.com/901/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0I like the HD 3870 line personally, so I'm glad to see you guys are into that possibility... I also agree with Platinum that brand doesn't matter all that much in this case but I'll stick to something we all like.Max0http://channel8.msdn.com/901/Trackback.aspx<p>I&nbsp;suggest going with the <a href="http://www.powercolor.com/eng/products_features.asp?ProductID=1647">PowerColor HD 3870 PCS 512MB GDDR4</a>&nbsp;(800MHz).</p> <p>Or, if we really want to splurge, the <a href="http://ati.amd.com/products/fireglv8650/index.html">ATI FireGL V8650</a>.</p>http://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=900Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:19:03 GMThttp://channel8.msdn.com/Posts/Max-Builds-a-PC-Series-Part-VI-The-Graphics-Card/?CommentID=9000http://channel8.msdn.com/900/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0I&nbsp;suggest going with the PowerColor HD 3870 PCS 512MB GDDR4&nbsp;(800MHz). Or, if we really want to splurge, the ATI FireGL V8650.Spinfusor0http://channel8.msdn.com/900/Trackback.aspx